tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5304534739961122812012-02-17T01:37:20.134+13:00Combined project diary for the <a href="http://runciman.lornahen.com/">Runciman One Name Study</a> and <a href="http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/Runciman">DNA Project</a>. Interested in hearing from all RUNCIMANs (and surname variants).Runcimans All Adminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05375256261493939473noreply@blogger.comBlogger871100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-530453473996112281.post-10203620632282307602012-02-08T18:08:00.000+13:002012-02-08T18:08:44.648+13:00

Thought it was time to recheck the Glasgow University RUNCIMAN graduates (between 1451 and 1896). Only 6, all are identified. The two Davids belong to Lineage 1a (the WantonWalls, Earlston line), James Watson and William RUNCIMAN are cousins belonging to lineage 1b (William of Crail branch), and Agatha Rachel RUNCIMAN - M.A. 1902 - also belonging to lineage 1b (Thomas & Alison (GRIEVE) branch,

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Rimsenden on ancestry, Runcember on findmypast, no wonder the family couldn't be found initially in the 1871 census.

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Family Tree DNA have announced that the discounts below have been extended to 7th Jan.

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If you haven't yet found WeRelate, check out the RUNCIMAN families that can be found there. As it is a free, genealogy focused Wiki, you can contribute your own corrections and updates there. Consider registering and uploading your own RUNCIMAN family, merging with the existing ones if necessary, to help build an excellent register of known RUNCIMANs. Also keep an eye on (and add links to) the

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From Family Tree DNA: Dear Project Administrator, Effective immediately this promotion will end on December 31, 2011. New Kits Current Group Price SALE

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Alan's page of military RUNCIMANs led to a recheck of what all was available for the 3 or 4  David RUNCIMANs born around 1800. The 1841 census had a family at Heatherly in Selkirkshire, where all of the family, except the youngest daughter Jean, were born "Scotland". Wonder when Gibraltar became part of Scotland ?? Marion later shows up as Mary Ann, born Gibraltar, and her marriage entry (to

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Most of the recent change index entries can be ignored. They are part of a behind the scenes database merge, and resultant tidy-up - particularly because the attempt to make the indexes rather more informative resulted, initially, in the wrong version of the names being used on the person pages. Should be remedied now. The new information is that for George, dry goods merchant of Annapolis and

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Another couple of entries for inventive indexing: Rancineau, Runciran, both from the same 1930 Michigan census entry.

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The background rationalisation of what is where continues, still hopefully seamlessly to anyone browsing the assorted RUNCIMAN pages. Links on the Summary Patriarchs Page have been checked and corrected so that: - any DNA Testee link goes to their personal page in the Runciman DNA Project - any (R-n) link goes to their result line in the Summary Result page - any other name/lineage person link

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The Lineage section of the One Name Study pages now also includes those researchers from the DNA project that were missed in the initial update, and the Wanted! pages have had a bit of a tweak from that converted over from the DNA pages. Should now more clearly show which lines still need a representative, and which need clarifications etc. This should have brought all of the person and lineage

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The One Name Study, and DNA project pages have been revamped, hopefully seamlessly from a user viewpoint. A Lineages section has been added to the One Name Study site where all, you guessed it, lineage information is available - as opposed to Analysis information which is organised by area and country rather than actual people and lineages. The Wanted! section from the DNA project has been moved

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The list of Runciman related web sites on DNA Surnames has been updated to include a link to Alan's William of Crail site on MyHeritage where he has entered Jen and Diane's "Scotland and Beyond" (2004).

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This posting on the Rootsweb Runciman Message Board prompted the addition of a few twigs to the Patriarchs page for the family of George & Janet (DARLING) RUNCIMAN, namely their son Thomas and wife Jane MOSSMAN and son Thomas (marr. Jane PAUL later SCOTT). Representative still required for the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA Project

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If you have bookmarked lineage pages in the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA project supplementary pages you may find they have changed. The pages have had a bit of a revamp, with most of the descendant charts being brought up to date into the more interactive format where you can expand/collapse assorted lines to get a better view of how your person of interest fits. In doing so, Lineages 1b and 1c were

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Three potentially inter-related families have been added to the Patriarchs page of the DNA Project. Those of: - James and Mary (GRAHAM) RUNCIMAN - George and Mary (McINTYRE) RUNCIMAN and - George and Mary (DAVIDSON) RUNCIMAN Some discussion on this latter family can be found on the RUNCIMAN Mailing List (for search terms, put Hector in the body and RUNCIMAN in the List boxes). We would love

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Next set of results have begun to arrive, and we don't have a match with the expected lineages. (R-13) (Descendant of William & Janet (PAXTON) RUNCIMAN of North Berwick, then Borthwick) actually has no 12 marker matches at all within the FT DNA tested community, so more investigation required to figure out what to do about this line. Preliminary 12 marker results posted on the summary result

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Summary DNA result page has been updated to reflect that one of the outstanding kits has reached the lab, one more to come.

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Stumbled across some of the Fenwick RUNCIMANs again today so decided to document a clutch of them. Check out the Patriarch page update for the family of Thomas and Mary (REDPATH). Any descendant willing to represent this line in the DNA project? Would be interesting to see if they match R-9 or R-12.

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The Patriarchs page has had another update, this time to include our latest recruit, R-14, who represents the line of the Perthshire RUNCIMANs, John & Susan (DONALDSON). (Should any of the suspected Ontario branch of this family see this and wish to test the theory they belong here, please do get in touch.) Their outline pedigree has therefore had a few tweaks. All going well, we should have

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The DNA project has its 13th kit on order As a consequence, slight tweaks have been made to the Patriarchs page to show where he is expected to fit - you'll need to scroll up to see the pedigree - which has also had "representative wanted" added to lines still requiring clarification for the likely overall pedigree for Alexander and Janet (HENDRIE) RUNCIMAN of Meikle Pinkerton, East Lothian.

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If you've been considering what genetic genealogy can do for your research, now is a great time to be in. Family Tree DNA have announced discounts available to kits ordered via a project. FYI the sale prices are: Price for NEW KITS: Regular Price (Promotional Price) YDNA37 $149 ($119) YDNA67 $239 ($199) mtDNAPlus $159 ($129) Family Finder $289 ($249) Price for UPGRADE: Family Finder $289 ($229

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The patriarch page summary for John and Susan (DONALDSON) RUNCIMAN has been updated to add a few twigs and combine the two Alexanders. In addition a link has been included for John to his page in the RUNCIMAN One Name Study, where there are a few notes for both John and the one, or two, Alexanders, together with a descendant chart. Suspect that if dna participants were found, that even if

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Patriarchs page has had another update - realised the family of John and Susan (DONALDSON) RUNCIMAN wasn't included. It now is, with at least one of the many Robert Munro RUNCIMANs that seem to exist. Not sure how many chaps of this name do exist, but there appear to be several over several generations, or possibly several married more than once. The associated places for these gentlemen are:

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Patriarchs page has been uploaded to include a few more twigs on the summary chart for the families believed to belong to Thomas and Jane (SIMPSON) RUNCIMAN The DNA project is still looking for a representatives from each of their sons (apart from John), to try and confirm the families do indeed fit together as shown. Should you know of any direct male line RUNCIMAN who may be interested in

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Decided to rationalise the project diaries for the RUNCIMAN DNA and One Name Study projects into the one. History has been migrated, but the old blogs remain in place in case any links point at them - however they have not been edited to ensure it is clear whether they reference the DNA or the ONS project, which remain, and will continue to remain, on separate web pages.

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Took a while, but the family of Alexander & Janet (HENDRIE) RUNCIMAN mentioned as beginning to be included back in June, has now had some of the branch of George and Janet (DARLING) RUNCIMAN included, with links to the researcher(s) and dna pages as appropriate.Most of the others mentioned on the Recently changed page are merely there because their source data references were checked and tidied

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A very brief descendant summary for the family of George and Janet (DARLING) RUNCIMAN has now been included on the DNA Summary Patriarchs page.As it is oriented to lines who may be able to furnish a dna project representative for this line (ie a direct male line RUNCIMAN descendant of George) those interested in some of the others in the family may care to look at the RUNCIMAN One Name Study

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New results just in provide a confirming signature for the line of Thomas and Isabella (CRAIG), Thomas being a descendant of Thomas and Alison (GRIEVE), and at 37 markers, show an exact match to the Earlston/Wanton Walls line of David and Margaret (BROWN).Supplementary pages have been updated, including the overall chart providing a theoretical lineage 1.

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The summary results page has been updated to include the last two sets of results (lineage 1).In addition the patriarchs page has had a link corrected and also now includes a brief outline for one of the Perthshire RUNCIMAN lines, that of Alexander and Elizabeth (BOYD), some of whose descendants emigrated to Ontario. Within Scotland associated places were Errol and Inchture, Perthshire; Orwell,

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Full 67 marker results are now in for Peter (R-12) and Jim (R-10), and show in the overall grid for the Supplementary pages.Their individual pages have also been updated to include the genetic distances to their matches.Still to come: the dna signature chart update to include them in the overall picture (theoretical), as the Family Tree DNA Time Predictor isn't yet showing the percentages.We now

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Although only preliminary results are in for two of the new kits, Jim (R-10) and Peter (R-12), it does rather look like we have a match with Lineage 1.The supplementary project pages now include Lineage 1c and 1d to reflect this.This has also led to Alexander (marr. Janet HENDRIE) being added to the pages and an extension to the Wanted! chart for Thomas and Jean (SIMPSON), given that we now have

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Another of the outstanding kits has reached the lab. Must have been just in time for the week's batching as both (R-12) and the earlier one back, (R-10), are in batch 369, with first results scheduled for 27th August, final by 10th Sep.

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Check out the updated RUNCIMAN One Name Study (ONS) pages.A couple of updated entries have been added to the researchers list (one not yet linked to his main interest, the George RUNCIMAN who married Janet DARLING, primarily because the family hasn't yet been included in any detail).The main changes have been to start including the family of Alexander RUNCIMAN & Janet HENDRIE of Dunbar, at least

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Family Tree DNA have extended the time period for ordering kits at the discount prices until Jun 30th - so still time to be in and find where your RUNCIMAN line "fits".Read the details in the blog for the 5th.Summary result page has been updated with placeholders for the three kits ordered as part of the sale and hopefully winging there way back to the lab - details to follow.

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The project has grown by two, details later once results are in.Still 9 days to go to get your order in at sale prices - much too good an opportunity to miss.We'd particularly love to hear from you if your RUNCIMAN line is not yet represented.

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Be aware that the project email address (RuncimanDNA) is currently undergoing a bit of a gmail glitch, hopefully temporary.Should it bounce, try again later!

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Now would be an excellent time to jump in and represent your RUNCIMAN line in the Surname DNA Project.Our testing company, FamilyTree DNA, have announced a "sizzling summer sale" which reduces the already discounted test prices available via the project by a further $40US. Y-DNA37 for $119 (Regular price would be $149)

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As I was researching a family that were from Ireland*, and there weren't that many RUNCIMANs in the Irish 1911 census, a distribution map for 1910/11 has been added (1910 because the States have 1910, but UK, Ireland and Canada have 1911).The first set of entries included show what Irish counties had RUNCIMANs - all of 3 counties, and 12 people over 7 families/households.A RUNICMAN search engine

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Not yet sure if we have a glitch in the Thomas & Mary (REDPATH) RUNCIMAN line or not.Our rep for this line is haplogroup R1b1b2 but doesn't match those participants already in that haplogroup.The prior Lineage 2 has been renamed Lineage 2a and Thomas and Mary are now Lineage 2b.Both supplementary and summary pages have been updated to include the new results.Given these results, the project would

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The ONS pages have been updated to include a few more notes on the (assumed) family of Thomas and Jean (SIMPSON) RUNCIMAN. Still to come, further details on the lines of Alexander (marr. to MANDERSON) and George (marr. to Janet DARLING).

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Research on one William I couldn't find in England where expected in 1911 led me to an emigration record of a William, no further information on FindMyPast.co.uk.The Canadian Archives end of the journey showed that he wasn't the chap I was looking for but did lead to a line of RUNCIMANs from Campsie, Stirling, with connections to Kirkintilloch (DNB).End result is that the (very few) extant

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The Lineage 1 DNA Signature Charts page has had a very, very theoretical first cut at how to join up the two genetically linked lines of William of Crail and David who was the forebear of the Wanton Walls and Earlston line.

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Read the intro for Thomas and Jane (Simpson) Runciman and make up your own mind as to whether or not there are two separate Thomas and Jane families or not.Better still, if you are direct male-line descendant of any of the sons shown here as possible descendants, please follow the project join link and help us (dis)prove the theories (at least 37 markers, preferably 67).Or if ineligible to join,

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Crossed fingers for a match with one or t'other of the represented lineages and no glitches along the ancestral paths as we now have a kit in progress for the line of Thomas and Mary (REDPATH) RUNCIMAN.Summary pages updated to reflect the kit in progress, and to include the remaining panels of Kevin (R-8)'s results (one of two matching representatives from the line of William of Crail, and an

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Wanted! pages now include a brief lineage for some of Thomas and Mary (REDPATH) RUNCIMAN's family, along with a linkage to Thomas' likely parents, Thomas and Jane (SIMPSON) RUNCIMAN who married at Dunbar in 1783.

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Another direct male RUNCIMAN line has been added to the Wanted! chart for Thomas and Alison (GRIEVE).Given the recent unexpected dna match we are now even more curious as to whether or not William of Crail and Thomas married Alison GRIEVE, can be proven, or at least not disproven, to be the sons of Robert and Janet (SINCLAIR) RUNCIMAN.So, a dna candidate from any of Thomas and Alison's lines

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Time for another update.Another researcher, and her branch have been included.Diana would like to hear from you about Thomas and Alison (GRIEVE) RUNCIMAN, and the DNA project would like to hear from you if you are a direct male line RUNCIMAN descendant of this family as we wish to test a theory that Thomas is the brother of William of Crail.Some progress made on analysing OPR births in Perth, but

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DNA results just in show an excellent match between our newly represented line, that of William of Crail. The two representatives, Jim (R-7) and Kevin (R-8) are a 12/12 (so far) to each other, and Jim is showing as a 66/67 match to one of the descendants of the Wanton Walls Runcimans, and a 65/67 match to the other.This rather ruins a theory of mine that had so far held true over various

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Two more of the William of Crail researchers have been added to the Researcher list.As one was interested in whether or not Alexander RUNCIMAN the painter may or may not be connected, the painter has been included on the Notables page. Interesting how just a brief search for information on him gives conflicting information (death date, father's occupation). No conclusion reached on any connection

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Patriarchs page updated to include an outline pedigree for the line of Thomas and Jean (SIMPSON) RUNCIMAN who married in 1783 at Dunbar, East Lothian.Notes about some of the family have already been included on the Runciman One Names Study (ONS) pages.It would seem highly likely that there is a link to Lineage 4, the family of Thomas and Alison (GRIEVE) RUNCIMAN, given they were all around the

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Another line of RUNCIMANs has been added to the "Identified Family Groups" tab, that of Thomas and Jean (SIMPSON) RUNCIMAN of Dunbar and Innerwick, East Lothian.This lot was prompted by Ros looking for someone else, picking a likely name in the phone book, and finding what looked like a Yorkshire and Durham based family who had spread their wings to Australia.Didn't take much digging from the

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If interested in what has been updated, remember to check out the Recently Changed index in the top rhs menu.The last updates were primarily to document the identification of possible linkages between William of Crail and the Thomas married to Alison GRIEVE.Along with some examination of the claims that their possible father Robert may have been born in 1703 (I don't agree, for the reasons

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The Wanted! pages have been updated to include a descendant chart for Thomas and Alison (GRIEVE) RUNCIMAN.As stated, a participant is particularly wanted to test a theory that this line is also that of William of Crail, both being sons of Robert and Janet (SINCLAIR) RUNCIMAN of Dirleton and Prestonpans.Candidates look a little sparse on the ground at this stage.Links are included to/from the

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As per the 8th: Name Distribution tab now also includes the name variants from a few more parishes: North Berwick (ELN), a couple from Aberdeenshire: Carnie, Aberdeen.None to be found in Caithness, and only 1 in Ayrshire.A couple of additions to the researcher index, and another patriarch, most definitely wanted in the DNA Project, Thomas the patriarch of Lineage 4, which may, or may not match

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Name Distribution tab now also includes the name variants from the first three East Lothian (ELN) parishes (Athelstaneford, Bolton, Dirleton).In addition, a researcher index has been added (others welcome, contact the web mistress, link in footer of the ONS pages), and a couple more patriarchs, both represented in the DNA Project, George the patriarch of Lineage 1, the line including the Earlston

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The preliminary results of my experiments on how best to show where the Runciman and variant names can now be found are on the Name Distribution tab.Selecting an item from the legend at the left hand side of the map will open the related bubble, which contains a brief summary and a link to where more information may be found.The first set of results are for current names in Ontario, Canada.

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Some placeholder entries have been included for Sir Steven Runciman and family, primarily because they are indeed some of our Notable Runcimans, and because they have not yet been included on the Patriarchs page of the DNA Project, nor represented in it.Given their origins, it would seem likely they match up with Lineage 2 and it would be good to see if this pans out.The next set of records being

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Keep getting sidetracked as I see what can be found for the pedigree of the latest two recruits, Jim (R-7) and Kevin (R-8), but in the meantime place holders exist on the Patriarchs page, and Supplementary pages to show Ros is researching this line, and would like to verify the paper trail which links them back at John & Jean (BARRIE) RUNCIMAN of Dirleton, East Lothian (ELN), with John being the

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Don't think it would ever get registered as a true surname variant of RUNCIMAN, but this latest inventive bit of indexing is taking rather too many liberties methinks: DIMENNA.No wonder I had to work a bit harder to find Thomas and Louisa (SHELDON) RUNCIMAN in the 1901 census (Ely, CAM).

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My registration of the RUNCIMAN Surname One Name Study (ONS), has been approved by the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS), and recognised variants likely to be added for RUNCHMAN and RUNCIEMAN. Possibly also RUNCIE, after a re-reading of Black's Surnames of Scotland, and a quick check of the Surnames of England and Wales ONS site showed that there weren't that many of them around.The RUNCIMAN ONS

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The Summary Patriarchs Page has been revamped, but no new pedigrees yet included.It was a tidy up of the code behind the scenes to make it easier to maintain, all in readiness for adding the details for our Lineage 3, or possibly 2a, for the two new kits in varying stages of making their way to the lab.In addition, there's a new link on the top rhs of this blog, that for the Runciman One Name

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You have presumably found this blog because of an interest in the surname RUNCIMAN.Check back regularly for the latest news.The RUNCIMAN Surname One Name Study (ONS) web site has only just been established, and is very much a companion site for the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA Project.All contributions welcome.

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And another participant in the project.R-8 and R-7 would like to prove the paper trail that links them at John RUNCIMAN and Jean BARRY of Dirleton, John being the son of William of Crail, a fisherman drowned in 1765 (by 1768 his children are recorded as being in North Berwick).Will be interesting to see who, if any, of the existing RUNCIMAN families they most closely match.Pedigrees will be added

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Our project has just increased in size - one more participant, R-7.Further details presumed to be coming.See the Project Diary for the overall DNA Project Portal Site for details of the test discounts available until the end of this month (Dec 2009).It's a good time to jump in if you've hit that brick wall and want to see how genetic genealogy can break that wall down.Or see if you may match the

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FamilyTree DNA are having an upgrade promotion for a week, so it is a good time to see what additional markers may show.Should eligible participants wish to avail themselves of the offer, follow the instructions in the email you will be sent by Family Tree DNA (I don't yet know how much of a discount, but the promo I received said an average of 25%, and the normal 37 to 67 upgrade is $99 US, and

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Check out the updated RUNCIMAN lineage pages.I finally had time to catch up on a lot of the data missing behind the scenes.There is probably no different information available on this site than scattered over the rest, but hopefully it is helpful to have access to it all in one place, or at least links to where it all is, and the format etc is so much easier for me to do updates as and when

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Full 37 marker results now in for the Peruvian connection of the family of James and Agnes (HERIOT) RUNCIMAN, and there's a good match with the NZ and American representatives.Results table updated, and reorganised slightly, to better reflect the similarities between these lines.Are no other RUNCIMAN families curious as to whether or not there's a match with the Scottish Borders farming community

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Welcome to the new Runciman Surname DNA Project Blog.Set up Nov 2008 to hold the Runciman Surname DNA Project diary and any discussions that may ensue from the project results.The previous diary will be gradually transferred across.DNA Project participants, and active RUNCIMAN family researchers are welcome to send me an email to gain authorship rights to this blog.Anyone may add comments.

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Patriarchs page updated to show which line the latest kit orders represent.

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6th kit ordered, from the line of the Peruvian branch of George Anderson RUNCIMAN, great grandson of James and Agnes (HERIOT) RUNCIMAN.

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5th kit ordered, from the line of Thomas & Isabella (LINTON) RUNCIMAN - should match the James and Agnes (HERIOT) RUNCIMAN lines, given that Thomas is their son.

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Upgrades from 37 to 67 markers ordered for the Wanton Walls lines to see what that might tell us about closeness of relationship. Still looking for representative of the other Michigan branch believed to be related (James RUNCIMAN and Isabella CARTER).

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Results page Haplogroups updated to reflect recent updates to the Y-Chromosome Phylogenetic Tree. Check out Family Tree DNA's Haplogroup Nomenclature FAQ for more information.

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Final set of 37 marker results back on fourth kit , that of a descendant of James and Agnes (HERIOT) RUNCIMAN of Ayton and Dunbar. 36/37 match with the descendant of James and Janet (HOG) RUNCIMAN, which (to me) indicates that this James is indeed the son of James and Agnes, and the "missing" family that the New Zealand relations thought was "in Ohio, no further information known".

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Final set of 37 marker results back on third kit, that of a descendant of James & Janet (HOG) RUNCIMAN who emigrated from Selkirk to Canada.

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Final set of results (37 markers) back on second kit, that of a descendant of William & Mary (BROWN) RUNCIMAN who emigrated to Michigan, which extended the 12/12 match with the Wanton Walls Lauder families to a 37/37 match.

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Patriarchs pages updated and links included to go to/from the results page.

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First set of results (12 markers) back on third kit, that of a descendant of James & Janet (HOG) RUNCIMAN who emigrated from Selkirk to Canada. No match with the Wanton Walls of Lauder descendants.

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First set of results (12 markers) back on second kit, that of a descendant of William & Mary (BROWN) RUNCIMAN who emigrated to Michigan, 12/12 match with the Wanton Walls, Lauder descendant, as suspected and hoped for.

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Final set of results (37 markers) back on first kit.

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Second set of results (25 markers) back on first kit. No exact matches in either Family Tree DNA database or on ysearch.

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First set of results (12 markers) back on first kit, no matches with any other Family Tree DNA testees.

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Fourth kit ordered, a descendant of James & Agnes (HERIOT) RUNCIMAN from Ayton/Dunbar area, descendants emigrated to New Zealand and Ohio, who may well show up as related to the third kit of Dec 10th (James and Janet (HOG) RUNCIMAN ex Selkirk to Ontario).

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Third kit ordered, a descendant of James & Janet (HOG) RUNCIMAN originally from Selkirkshire, Scotland, emigrated to Ontario.

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First kit has made it back to the lab, results eagerly awaited.

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Second kit ordered, a descendant of William & Mary (BROWN) RUNCIMAN of Michigan, USA, rumoured to be related to the Wanton Walls RUNCIMAN familiy.

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Project initiated & first kit ordered, a descendant of David and Janet (LOCKIE) RUNCIMAN of Wanton Walls, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland.

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