On 16 May 2015, the descendants of William of Crail (Lineage 1b) are invited to join those commemorating the anniversary of his death in a fishing disaster.
Further information available on the WikiTree page for this fishing disaster.
Monday, November 4, 2013
Saturday, October 12, 2013
Monumental error!
(Thank you Alan for the phrase.)
Those of you checking off the more recent updates may notice Jane(t) RUNCIMAN nee PREACHER/PRITCHARD's page, with picture of her headstone in the Peebles Cemetery.
This has been included for a reason.
Her SKINNER surname is rather misleading.
I've concluded that the headstone has to have been erected long after the fact, and that her death cert. was used to derive her maiden name, but rather hurriedly read.
Jane's father was a Thomas PRITCHARD, his occupation given on Jane's 1904 death certificate was skinner (journeyman).
The photo did send us all scurrying to our records to review our data, but as Jane is baptised to the correct parents as Janet PREACHER, appears as such in the 1841 census with her father Thomas, is indexed at her 1847 marriage to Charles as PRITCHARD, and her death is indexed as Jane RUNCIMAN, other surname PRITCHARD, I think it is reasonably certain that her name was not SKINNER.
Yes, I've been using capitals for the surnames intentionally here, although I do not always do so. Pity the death certificate didn't.
Or perhaps there's a family story yet to come to light?
Those of you checking off the more recent updates may notice Jane(t) RUNCIMAN nee PREACHER/PRITCHARD's page, with picture of her headstone in the Peebles Cemetery.
This has been included for a reason.
Her SKINNER surname is rather misleading.
I've concluded that the headstone has to have been erected long after the fact, and that her death cert. was used to derive her maiden name, but rather hurriedly read.
Jane's father was a Thomas PRITCHARD, his occupation given on Jane's 1904 death certificate was skinner (journeyman).
The photo did send us all scurrying to our records to review our data, but as Jane is baptised to the correct parents as Janet PREACHER, appears as such in the 1841 census with her father Thomas, is indexed at her 1847 marriage to Charles as PRITCHARD, and her death is indexed as Jane RUNCIMAN, other surname PRITCHARD, I think it is reasonably certain that her name was not SKINNER.
Yes, I've been using capitals for the surnames intentionally here, although I do not always do so. Pity the death certificate didn't.
Or perhaps there's a family story yet to come to light?
ONS lineage section update
Along with the One Name Study updates mentioned in the last post, the lineages section has also been republished to bring it up to date with the (few) published updates from the last few months.
Yes there has been a lot of activity, but most of it has been behind the scenes, eg trying to identify dna matches from respective FamilyFinder results.
Yes we are still very much interested in finding direct male line dna representatives for the assorted RUNCIMAN lines either with puzzles, or yet to be represented, but these days we aren't as restricted to Y-DNA for our DNA findings.
Read about the various tests and join the project here.
Y-DNA 37 is our recommended minimum for the direct male line, although Y-DNA 67 is preferred. The project also welcomes anyone with a RUNCIMAN, or variant surname, in their ancestry to join us and do the FamilyFinder test. Although this latter s a far less direct way to prove connections there are a growing number of us with results able to be compared and all data is grist to the RUNCIMAN dna mill.
Yes there has been a lot of activity, but most of it has been behind the scenes, eg trying to identify dna matches from respective FamilyFinder results.
Yes we are still very much interested in finding direct male line dna representatives for the assorted RUNCIMAN lines either with puzzles, or yet to be represented, but these days we aren't as restricted to Y-DNA for our DNA findings.
Read about the various tests and join the project here.
Y-DNA 37 is our recommended minimum for the direct male line, although Y-DNA 67 is preferred. The project also welcomes anyone with a RUNCIMAN, or variant surname, in their ancestry to join us and do the FamilyFinder test. Although this latter s a far less direct way to prove connections there are a growing number of us with results able to be compared and all data is grist to the RUNCIMAN dna mill.
1851 Census
The One Name Study analysis pages have been republished to include more data about the RUNCIMAN-like names from assorted 1850/1/2 census records.
It's going to be an interesting exercise reconciling the discrepancies between the various sources: FamilySearch, Ancestry, FindMyPast, ScotlandsPeople just being some of them, most of which disagree with each other on both the names and the numbers thereof.
These are totals only, the investigations are very much ongoing, and in background mode.
Examining the Canadian data did lead me to conclude that the Andrew, marr. to Margaret THOMSON, and in Ontario by 1846 at least, just has to be the nephew of the James married to Janet HOGG already in Ontario by 1833.
He has been connected to that family on that assumption, documented on his page in the lineage section.
It's going to be an interesting exercise reconciling the discrepancies between the various sources: FamilySearch, Ancestry, FindMyPast, ScotlandsPeople just being some of them, most of which disagree with each other on both the names and the numbers thereof.
These are totals only, the investigations are very much ongoing, and in background mode.
Examining the Canadian data did lead me to conclude that the Andrew, marr. to Margaret THOMSON, and in Ontario by 1846 at least, just has to be the nephew of the James married to Janet HOGG already in Ontario by 1833.
He has been connected to that family on that assumption, documented on his page in the lineage section.
Wednesday, July 3, 2013
How WikiTree can help the One Name Study and DNA project
Comfortable with online trees?
Want to do your bit towards accurate RUNCIMAN etc family trees?
Help out the One Name Study/DNA project by publishing your own genealogy and share the fact that you have taken a DNA test.
(Yes the One Name Study has published trees, but they are only those I've researched, many many more families exist and there's only so many hours in a day.)
WikiTree, a free, collaborative, one world tree site, always was a site with great privacy controls and options, but has just become even better for those of us interested in genetic genealogy.
It has implemented a set of DNA features whereby those who have taken a DNA test (Y-DNA, mt-DNA or autosomal DNA) may mark this on their profile using the facility provided. (Privacy options exist.)
Each person who may be impacted by this test then gets a link on their profile that they may find more family information by contacting the test taker.
Works best, of course, if you conscientiously check for, and merge, any duplicated people found, and work on them together with the other interested researcher.
Of particular interest is the power of connected trees to enable those of us interested in FamilyFinder (an autosomal dna test) to try and determine where such a link may be.
This has nothing to do with actual DNA results, which continue to be published in the DNA project pages, as will trees on the One Name Study, this is a great extension to the project.
What it is doing is identifying family connected to the results, eg anyone on the direct male line of a RUNCIMAN who has taken a Y-DNA test, anyone on the direct maternal line of a female test taker, and anyone within a conservative 5? generations of relationship to someone who has taken a FamilyFinder, or 23andme, test.
Check out the Runciman One Name Study and DNA Project page on WikiTree.
It should help us all leverage off these new WikiTree features to the benefit of those interested in the RUNCIMAN, and variant, surnames.
It provides a space where links may be provided to patriarchs, test takers, and to the One Name Study/DNA Project pages as appropriate.
On the page are some links to instructions from WikiTree on how to protect privacy when entering data for living people.
To upload a gedcom you have to have signify that you have read the WikiTree Genealogist Honor Code.
Hints:
Whereas WikiTree allows gedcom uploads, data is not readily re-updated via another GedCom upload.
My personal use is to upload a branch of a tree at a time, but only once it is reasonably complete and documented, and only down to the generations no longer with us. Should family members wish to use the facilities for their own data on the living, that is their choice, and can be within the excellent privacy controls as to visibility, and trusted family member facilities offered by WikiTree.
For the ONS and DNA project purposes, ideally we would have all the test takers loaded with their direct ancestors, and each RUNCIMAN patriarch identified on the above project page.
A bonus would be to get the descendants of the patriarchs also loaded, but to do that efficiently requires a plan of attack between those working on a particular line as to who uploads which branches.
It is best only to load small gedcoms at a time, eg for one branch of a family.
On import, the first step you are required to do is to compare the identified possible duplicates and either reject or link them at import to be merged after import processing has been completed.
So, before rushing into this, do check what may already exist there, and identify the gaps to be filled, and linked.
Want to help out by contributing your tree but don't know how? Contact the project admin using the details in the footer of any of the project pages.
Want to do your bit towards accurate RUNCIMAN etc family trees?
Help out the One Name Study/DNA project by publishing your own genealogy and share the fact that you have taken a DNA test.
(Yes the One Name Study has published trees, but they are only those I've researched, many many more families exist and there's only so many hours in a day.)
WikiTree, a free, collaborative, one world tree site, always was a site with great privacy controls and options, but has just become even better for those of us interested in genetic genealogy.
It has implemented a set of DNA features whereby those who have taken a DNA test (Y-DNA, mt-DNA or autosomal DNA) may mark this on their profile using the facility provided. (Privacy options exist.)
Each person who may be impacted by this test then gets a link on their profile that they may find more family information by contacting the test taker.
Works best, of course, if you conscientiously check for, and merge, any duplicated people found, and work on them together with the other interested researcher.
Of particular interest is the power of connected trees to enable those of us interested in FamilyFinder (an autosomal dna test) to try and determine where such a link may be.
This has nothing to do with actual DNA results, which continue to be published in the DNA project pages, as will trees on the One Name Study, this is a great extension to the project.
What it is doing is identifying family connected to the results, eg anyone on the direct male line of a RUNCIMAN who has taken a Y-DNA test, anyone on the direct maternal line of a female test taker, and anyone within a conservative 5? generations of relationship to someone who has taken a FamilyFinder, or 23andme, test.
Check out the Runciman One Name Study and DNA Project page on WikiTree.
It should help us all leverage off these new WikiTree features to the benefit of those interested in the RUNCIMAN, and variant, surnames.
It provides a space where links may be provided to patriarchs, test takers, and to the One Name Study/DNA Project pages as appropriate.
On the page are some links to instructions from WikiTree on how to protect privacy when entering data for living people.
To upload a gedcom you have to have signify that you have read the WikiTree Genealogist Honor Code.
Hints:
Whereas WikiTree allows gedcom uploads, data is not readily re-updated via another GedCom upload.
My personal use is to upload a branch of a tree at a time, but only once it is reasonably complete and documented, and only down to the generations no longer with us. Should family members wish to use the facilities for their own data on the living, that is their choice, and can be within the excellent privacy controls as to visibility, and trusted family member facilities offered by WikiTree.
For the ONS and DNA project purposes, ideally we would have all the test takers loaded with their direct ancestors, and each RUNCIMAN patriarch identified on the above project page.
A bonus would be to get the descendants of the patriarchs also loaded, but to do that efficiently requires a plan of attack between those working on a particular line as to who uploads which branches.
It is best only to load small gedcoms at a time, eg for one branch of a family.
On import, the first step you are required to do is to compare the identified possible duplicates and either reject or link them at import to be merged after import processing has been completed.
So, before rushing into this, do check what may already exist there, and identify the gaps to be filled, and linked.
Want to help out by contributing your tree but don't know how? Contact the project admin using the details in the footer of any of the project pages.
Saturday, June 29, 2013
Break through that brick wall now!
Trying to break down a RUNCIMAN (or similar surname) brick wall?
Now's the time to grab the opportunity to add science to your search.
Family Tree DNA have advertised a summer sale,
full details on the DNA Surnames project diary, but do make sure that you order via the RUNCIMAN project so that we all benefit from your search - and can help you with our combined knowledge of the known families.
Wednesday, May 22, 2013
Inventive Indexing ctd
Working through research on a south African branch of the family of Peter & Jane (SMITH) RUNCIMAN, there were some census gaps that should now be able to be filled.
1871 Thomas RUNCIMAN born about 1790 wasn't quite as easily found as expected.
Ancestry has him as Thomas RANEWIAN, with the 23 yr old grandchild Agnes COMB with him as his Grt grt grandmother!
Thankfully FindMyPast was more accurate.
1871 Thomas RUNCIMAN born about 1790 wasn't quite as easily found as expected.
Ancestry has him as Thomas RANEWIAN, with the 23 yr old grandchild Agnes COMB with him as his Grt grt grandmother!
Thankfully FindMyPast was more accurate.
Wednesday, May 15, 2013
Artistic bent
Alan spurred off a new round of activity on some of the artists in the extended RUNCIMAN families.
We had believed that both Alexander and brother John had died childless. Wrong, at least in Alexander's case!
The snippets Alan unearthed have been tracked down, and the family of the artists extended back a generation to that previously known, and down one to a mysterious John, who may, or may not, be surnamed RUNCIMAN, a silversmith in London before 1802.
There's also a reference to a nephew needing support when Alexander died in 1785 (Edinburgh). Possibly a son of his sister Eleanora?
The Woburn RUNCIMANs also had a brief revision, with the mysterious Phillip's death located by Lawrie. What happened to his assumed wife Ellen - the lady with him in the 1870 New York census?
The One Name Study pages have been updated to reflect the above, and the last few month's changes.
We had believed that both Alexander and brother John had died childless. Wrong, at least in Alexander's case!
The snippets Alan unearthed have been tracked down, and the family of the artists extended back a generation to that previously known, and down one to a mysterious John, who may, or may not, be surnamed RUNCIMAN, a silversmith in London before 1802.
There's also a reference to a nephew needing support when Alexander died in 1785 (Edinburgh). Possibly a son of his sister Eleanora?
The Woburn RUNCIMANs also had a brief revision, with the mysterious Phillip's death located by Lawrie. What happened to his assumed wife Ellen - the lady with him in the 1870 New York census?
The One Name Study pages have been updated to reflect the above, and the last few month's changes.
Saturday, April 20, 2013
Short DNA sale April 2013
Family Tree DNA have advised that they are having a "DNA day" sale which originally finished 11:59pm 22 April 2013 CDT.
It has been extended to the 25th April, with the following explanation:
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This year we began our commemoration of National DNA Day on April 19th. This coincides with the celebration by the National Human Genome Research Institute and the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History's partnership to celebrate the 1953 discovery of the double helix and the 2003 completion of the Human Genome Project, which was April 19th.
However, DNA Day is celebrated worldwide on April 25th. Therefore, we've extended our sale! The usual conditions apply - orders must be made and paid for by 11:59 p.m. CDT on Thursday, April 25th.
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Great time to be in.
Here's the original notification, with the prices:
Excellent Family Finder & mtDNA full sequence pricing, and news of Y-DNA upgrades being available on Father's Day
So if you've been thinking about doing your bit for our overall knowledge of RUNCIMANs, goto Family Tree DNA, select the RUNCIMAN project and order your appropriate test.
If in doubt about what is best, select a link in the footer of any of the RUNCIMAN pages linked at top right and ask.
If already tested, log in to your personal page at Family Tree DNA and select an upgrade. The tests relevant to you will pop up.
From their advice to administrators:
"While the special pricing features all the major tests, we’re placing particular emphasis on the Full Mitochondrial Sequence and Family Finder. We’ll offer Y-DNA upgrades during a Father’s Day sale and will give you those details at that time.
It has been extended to the 25th April, with the following explanation:
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This year we began our commemoration of National DNA Day on April 19th. This coincides with the celebration by the National Human Genome Research Institute and the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History's partnership to celebrate the 1953 discovery of the double helix and the 2003 completion of the Human Genome Project, which was April 19th.
However, DNA Day is celebrated worldwide on April 25th. Therefore, we've extended our sale! The usual conditions apply - orders must be made and paid for by 11:59 p.m. CDT on Thursday, April 25th.
----
Great time to be in.
Here's the original notification, with the prices:
Excellent Family Finder & mtDNA full sequence pricing, and news of Y-DNA upgrades being available on Father's Day
So if you've been thinking about doing your bit for our overall knowledge of RUNCIMANs, goto Family Tree DNA, select the RUNCIMAN project and order your appropriate test.
If in doubt about what is best, select a link in the footer of any of the RUNCIMAN pages linked at top right and ask.
If already tested, log in to your personal page at Family Tree DNA and select an upgrade. The tests relevant to you will pop up.
From their advice to administrators:
"While the special pricing features all the major tests, we’re placing particular emphasis on the Full Mitochondrial Sequence and Family Finder. We’ll offer Y-DNA upgrades during a Father’s Day sale and will give you those details at that time.
By
carefully choosing the sale options and limiting the length of the sale,
we will be better able to focus our resources on processing the tests
efficiently and avoiding delays in delivering results.
We
are proud to announce we have successfully moved our mtDNA Full Sequencing
line from Sanger DNA sequencing to what is called Next Generation
Sequencing (NGS). This gives us much greater capacity to process tests, to
reduce costs without sacrificing quality, and to ensure shorter turnaround
times.
We must run the entire
sequence every time we process an mtDNA full sequence test, even for
upgrades. However, in
recognition of your prior investment- and National DNA Day – we’re
offering our lowest price ever for the FMS and upgrades.
Rather than the 8-10 weeks
first generation sequencing required, we expect results to be completed
within 5-6 weeks. This does depend on the number of orders received
though. If their DNA is already at our lab, those who order first may
expect even shorter turnaround times.
Upgrades to FMS….$129
Y-DNA37 (new and add-on)…. $119
Y-DNA67 (new and add-on)…. $199
Y-DNA37 + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $308
Y-DNA12 + FF…. $218
Y-DNA37 + FF…. $288
Y-DNA67 + FF…. $368
Family Finder.... $169
Family Finder + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $358
SuperDNA….$388 (Y-67 + FMS)
Comprehensive DNA…. $557 (Y-67 + FMS + FF
For a
limited time we will be selling the FMS for $189 and whether you’ve tested
HVR1 or HVR1+2, you’ll be able to upgrade to the Full Sequence for just
$129!
In addition,
we are also lowering the Family Finder to $169 for this sale!
Here is the
list of all tests under the promotion:
Full MtDNA
Sequence…. $189Upgrades to FMS….$129
Y-DNA37 (new and add-on)…. $119
Y-DNA67 (new and add-on)…. $199
Y-DNA37 + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $308
Y-DNA12 + FF…. $218
Y-DNA37 + FF…. $288
Y-DNA67 + FF…. $368
Family Finder.... $169
Family Finder + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $358
SuperDNA….$388 (Y-67 + FMS)
Comprehensive DNA…. $557 (Y-67 + FMS + FF
The
sale will begin tonight, April 18th, at 6PM CDT and will conclude at
11:59PM CDT on Monday April 22nd. All orders must be placed and paid for
by the end of the sale to receive the promotional price.
There
will be no need for a coupon - all prices will be automatically adjusted
on the website."
Thursday, April 18, 2013
Creeping closer
The next step towards the present on the I1 Haplogroup tree has been returned, and the haplogroup tree on DNA Surnames has been updated to reflect this. Also check out the current ISOGG I1 tree
The branch of the tree that Kevin (R-8), and by implication, his matches, is now Z60+ aka I1a2a1
The time estimates from the I1 project currently put this branch at about 3-4500 years ago - ie creeping into recorded history! Take a look at the Timeline of Prehistoric Scotland to put this into context. But bear in mind all such dna time estimates are subject to variation.
Many thanks to those who have donated to the RUNCIMAN DNA Project general fund. Your generous donations allow this testing to continue.
The branch of the tree that Kevin (R-8), and by implication, his matches, is now Z60+ aka I1a2a1
The time estimates from the I1 project currently put this branch at about 3-4500 years ago - ie creeping into recorded history! Take a look at the Timeline of Prehistoric Scotland to put this into context. But bear in mind all such dna time estimates are subject to variation.
Many thanks to those who have donated to the RUNCIMAN DNA Project general fund. Your generous donations allow this testing to continue.
Friday, March 29, 2013
Heading for the present
We've started our progression down the I1 haplogroup tree from ancestral Adam down towards present day.
Kevin (R-8) (many thanks) is our volunteered representative for this, with the first step completed showing that he, and by implication, the matching RUNCIMANs, have changed from I-M253 (aka I1), to the subgroup Z59+ (I1a3a).
The more strings of letters and numbers, the closer we're getting to present day, but don't hold your breath, it's a long way down.
The next step down has been ordered, with thanks to the generous donations in our general fund - which can also be applied towards testing any qualifying direct male line RUNCIMAN from any of our Wanted! lines, or any unrepresented line.
The Supplementary pages have been updated to both include Kevin's new results, and upgrade the analysis page to reflect the current numbering and trees, along with some data on how the RUNCIMAN STR results compare to the overall I1 haplogroup values.
Those interested in this level of testing may be interested in the Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I mailing list.
Kevin (R-8) (many thanks) is our volunteered representative for this, with the first step completed showing that he, and by implication, the matching RUNCIMANs, have changed from I-M253 (aka I1), to the subgroup Z59+ (I1a3a).
The more strings of letters and numbers, the closer we're getting to present day, but don't hold your breath, it's a long way down.
The next step down has been ordered, with thanks to the generous donations in our general fund - which can also be applied towards testing any qualifying direct male line RUNCIMAN from any of our Wanted! lines, or any unrepresented line.
The Supplementary pages have been updated to both include Kevin's new results, and upgrade the analysis page to reflect the current numbering and trees, along with some data on how the RUNCIMAN STR results compare to the overall I1 haplogroup values.
Those interested in this level of testing may be interested in the Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I mailing list.
Sunday, February 24, 2013
Entry level Y-DNA discount
Family Tree DNA have announced a heavy promotional discount for their Y-DNA12 test, Normal price $99 US, discount offer $39 US.
This is an excellent price for this entry level test to begin exploring your connections to other RUNCIMANs (follow the sidebar links for results to date).
Be in and begin an exciting journey.
Direct male line RUNCIMANs are welcome to join the RUNCIMAN project by following this link to order the Y-DNA12 test for $39 US and join the project at the same time.
This level of test will really only tell you your deeper ancestry (1000s of years ago), but once tested, you will become as hooked as the rest of us.
Upgrades are always possible, with at least Y-DNA37 begin useful for exploring family connections within genealogical timeframes.
This test is for males only, so if female, find a brother, cousin, father, uncle etc to test on behalf of the family.
Saturday, February 16, 2013
Getting there
The One Name Study lineage pages have had an update, primarily for the William of Crail change of tack, which brings in at least a couple of generations earlier in North Berwick (East Lothian).
Other changes include tweaks in some of the lineages (which wont show up on the Recently Changed index).
There may be more, but at least in the following charts:
Other changes include tweaks in some of the lineages (which wont show up on the Recently Changed index).
There may be more, but at least in the following charts:
- Thomas and Mary (REDPATH) RUNCIMAN - found after investigating a headstone in the Portarlington Cemetery, Victoria (AUS) brought to our attention by one of our intrepid researchers
- George and Janet (DARLING) RUNCIMAN - found during the above investigation, twig going to/from New Zealand (George a rabbit trapper from Ayton (BEW), married to Janet Bell McLeod MARSHALL)
- Thomas & Alison (GRIEVE) RUNCIMAN - also found during the above investigation, further information on the twig emigrating to Australia in 1910.
Monday, February 4, 2013
William of Crail
One Name Study lineage pages have (finally) been fully republished, primarily to include the updates made necessary by the sterling work of Phyllis and Allan from their visit to the National Archives that settled once and for all the relationship between William of Crail, and the mysterious Richard who brought up his orphaned children (see It was Grandad!).
There are undoubtedly some rough edges yet to be tidied up, and the DNA project supplementary pages have yet to be brought in line with this change of tack
There are undoubtedly some rough edges yet to be tidied up, and the DNA project supplementary pages have yet to be brought in line with this change of tack
Sunday, February 3, 2013
The other convict
Flushed with the success of identifying convict John, attention turned to Ruth the other Tasmanian convict (1831).
Supposedly Scottish, she looks rather more likely to be the Ruth born Berwick upon Tweed to Richard and Jane (SANDERSON) RUNCHMAN.
Whether Richard is from Scotland, or belongs to the other Cornhill families may never be determined.
Friday, February 1, 2013
Convict John
Our "Australia royalty" rep has now been identified - thanks to the power of teamwork - and included in the Notables index , remembering that the index points readers to both notable AND notorious RUNCIMANs.
Upon re-examination, with the passage of time and accumulation of more information, John's convict record had sufficient information to indicate he was the John born Duddingston (Edinburgh) to James and Mary (THOMSON) RUNCIMAN,.
This family was being researched for the mysterious George who appears in the 1851 census as unmarried, with sister-in-law Isabella (nee STEWART), and assorted nieces and nephews.
Isabella is later documented as George's wife with both of them showing as parents of at least one of the "nieces & nephews" from the 1851 census - and they probably were, given Isabella's husband John was in Tasmania when most were born!
Fate of John beyond his 1851 release is unknown. Also unknown are the fates of his documented other son James born Cape of Good Hope, and possible other "wife" Elizabeth.
Saturday, January 26, 2013
Berwickshire
Tree of George & Janet (DARLING) RUNCIMAN has a few new twigs added, down from the family of George & Elizabeth (DAVIDSON) RUNCIMAN, descendants mainly living around assorted places in Berwickshire.
Love to hear from anyone researching this line who can help update the tree.
Love to hear from anyone researching this line who can help update the tree.
The Orkneys
A few updated twigs/dates on the tree of Robert & Agnes (KING) RUNCIMAN, that of the branch of John William & Mary Annie Yorston (FINDLATER) RUNCIMAN, John having moved from Edinburgh to Kirkwall.
Should anyone be researching any lines of these families we would love to hear from you - contact links at the foot of most project pages.
Should anyone be researching any lines of these families we would love to hear from you - contact links at the foot of most project pages.
Friday, January 25, 2013
Perthshire RUNCIMANs
The descendant chart for John & Susan (DONALDSON) RUNCIMAN of Inchture (Perthshire) has been updated on the line down from Alexander & Jane (HEPBURN) RUNCIMAN (to include the Cheltenham twigs).
Remember that this family is on the Wanted! page for the DNA page to see if we can prove that the Alexander families with Jane HEPBURN and with Isabella DOW are one and the same Alexander.
So we would love to hear from a direct male line RUNCIMAN from both of these families who may be willing to be persuaded to join the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA project and either prove or disprove this theory.
Remember that this family is on the Wanted! page for the DNA page to see if we can prove that the Alexander families with Jane HEPBURN and with Isabella DOW are one and the same Alexander.
So we would love to hear from a direct male line RUNCIMAN from both of these families who may be willing to be persuaded to join the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA project and either prove or disprove this theory.
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