The supplementary DNA page for the analysis of the I1 haplogroup Runcimans has been updated to include a phylogenetic tree, and an update to where we're currently at with SNP testing, ie the march towards the present down the haplogroup descendant tree of mankind.
The next step is being organized, watch this space.
Combined project diary for the Runciman One Name Study and DNA Project. Interested in hearing from all RUNCIMANs (and surname variants).
Monday, January 20, 2014
Haplogroup I1 analysis
Monday, November 4, 2013
Anniversary commemoration, May 2015
On 16 May 2015, the descendants of William of Crail (Lineage 1b) are invited to join those commemorating the anniversary of his death in a fishing disaster.
Further information available on the WikiTree page for this fishing disaster.
Further information available on the WikiTree page for this fishing disaster.
Labels:
Crail (FIF),
fishing disaster,
Lineage 1b,
William
Saturday, October 12, 2013
Monumental error!
(Thank you Alan for the phrase.)
Those of you checking off the more recent updates may notice Jane(t) RUNCIMAN nee PREACHER/PRITCHARD's page, with picture of her headstone in the Peebles Cemetery.
This has been included for a reason.
Her SKINNER surname is rather misleading.
I've concluded that the headstone has to have been erected long after the fact, and that her death cert. was used to derive her maiden name, but rather hurriedly read.
Jane's father was a Thomas PRITCHARD, his occupation given on Jane's 1904 death certificate was skinner (journeyman).
The photo did send us all scurrying to our records to review our data, but as Jane is baptised to the correct parents as Janet PREACHER, appears as such in the 1841 census with her father Thomas, is indexed at her 1847 marriage to Charles as PRITCHARD, and her death is indexed as Jane RUNCIMAN, other surname PRITCHARD, I think it is reasonably certain that her name was not SKINNER.
Yes, I've been using capitals for the surnames intentionally here, although I do not always do so. Pity the death certificate didn't.
Or perhaps there's a family story yet to come to light?
Those of you checking off the more recent updates may notice Jane(t) RUNCIMAN nee PREACHER/PRITCHARD's page, with picture of her headstone in the Peebles Cemetery.
This has been included for a reason.
Her SKINNER surname is rather misleading.
I've concluded that the headstone has to have been erected long after the fact, and that her death cert. was used to derive her maiden name, but rather hurriedly read.
Jane's father was a Thomas PRITCHARD, his occupation given on Jane's 1904 death certificate was skinner (journeyman).
The photo did send us all scurrying to our records to review our data, but as Jane is baptised to the correct parents as Janet PREACHER, appears as such in the 1841 census with her father Thomas, is indexed at her 1847 marriage to Charles as PRITCHARD, and her death is indexed as Jane RUNCIMAN, other surname PRITCHARD, I think it is reasonably certain that her name was not SKINNER.
Yes, I've been using capitals for the surnames intentionally here, although I do not always do so. Pity the death certificate didn't.
Or perhaps there's a family story yet to come to light?
Labels:
Charles,
Peebles (PEE),
PREACHER,
PRITCHARD,
SKINNER
ONS lineage section update
Along with the One Name Study updates mentioned in the last post, the lineages section has also been republished to bring it up to date with the (few) published updates from the last few months.
Yes there has been a lot of activity, but most of it has been behind the scenes, eg trying to identify dna matches from respective FamilyFinder results.
Yes we are still very much interested in finding direct male line dna representatives for the assorted RUNCIMAN lines either with puzzles, or yet to be represented, but these days we aren't as restricted to Y-DNA for our DNA findings.
Read about the various tests and join the project here.
Y-DNA 37 is our recommended minimum for the direct male line, although Y-DNA 67 is preferred. The project also welcomes anyone with a RUNCIMAN, or variant surname, in their ancestry to join us and do the FamilyFinder test. Although this latter s a far less direct way to prove connections there are a growing number of us with results able to be compared and all data is grist to the RUNCIMAN dna mill.
Yes there has been a lot of activity, but most of it has been behind the scenes, eg trying to identify dna matches from respective FamilyFinder results.
Yes we are still very much interested in finding direct male line dna representatives for the assorted RUNCIMAN lines either with puzzles, or yet to be represented, but these days we aren't as restricted to Y-DNA for our DNA findings.
Read about the various tests and join the project here.
Y-DNA 37 is our recommended minimum for the direct male line, although Y-DNA 67 is preferred. The project also welcomes anyone with a RUNCIMAN, or variant surname, in their ancestry to join us and do the FamilyFinder test. Although this latter s a far less direct way to prove connections there are a growing number of us with results able to be compared and all data is grist to the RUNCIMAN dna mill.
1851 Census
The One Name Study analysis pages have been republished to include more data about the RUNCIMAN-like names from assorted 1850/1/2 census records.
It's going to be an interesting exercise reconciling the discrepancies between the various sources: FamilySearch, Ancestry, FindMyPast, ScotlandsPeople just being some of them, most of which disagree with each other on both the names and the numbers thereof.
These are totals only, the investigations are very much ongoing, and in background mode.
Examining the Canadian data did lead me to conclude that the Andrew, marr. to Margaret THOMSON, and in Ontario by 1846 at least, just has to be the nephew of the James married to Janet HOGG already in Ontario by 1833.
He has been connected to that family on that assumption, documented on his page in the lineage section.
It's going to be an interesting exercise reconciling the discrepancies between the various sources: FamilySearch, Ancestry, FindMyPast, ScotlandsPeople just being some of them, most of which disagree with each other on both the names and the numbers thereof.
These are totals only, the investigations are very much ongoing, and in background mode.
Examining the Canadian data did lead me to conclude that the Andrew, marr. to Margaret THOMSON, and in Ontario by 1846 at least, just has to be the nephew of the James married to Janet HOGG already in Ontario by 1833.
He has been connected to that family on that assumption, documented on his page in the lineage section.
Labels:
1851 census,
Andrew,
HOGG,
James,
ONS update,
Ontario (CAN),
THOMSON
Wednesday, July 3, 2013
How WikiTree can help the One Name Study and DNA project
Comfortable with online trees?
Want to do your bit towards accurate RUNCIMAN etc family trees?
Help out the One Name Study/DNA project by publishing your own genealogy and share the fact that you have taken a DNA test.
(Yes the One Name Study has published trees, but they are only those I've researched, many many more families exist and there's only so many hours in a day.)
WikiTree, a free, collaborative, one world tree site, always was a site with great privacy controls and options, but has just become even better for those of us interested in genetic genealogy.
It has implemented a set of DNA features whereby those who have taken a DNA test (Y-DNA, mt-DNA or autosomal DNA) may mark this on their profile using the facility provided. (Privacy options exist.)
Each person who may be impacted by this test then gets a link on their profile that they may find more family information by contacting the test taker.
Works best, of course, if you conscientiously check for, and merge, any duplicated people found, and work on them together with the other interested researcher.
Of particular interest is the power of connected trees to enable those of us interested in FamilyFinder (an autosomal dna test) to try and determine where such a link may be.
This has nothing to do with actual DNA results, which continue to be published in the DNA project pages, as will trees on the One Name Study, this is a great extension to the project.
What it is doing is identifying family connected to the results, eg anyone on the direct male line of a RUNCIMAN who has taken a Y-DNA test, anyone on the direct maternal line of a female test taker, and anyone within a conservative 5? generations of relationship to someone who has taken a FamilyFinder, or 23andme, test.
Check out the Runciman One Name Study and DNA Project page on WikiTree.
It should help us all leverage off these new WikiTree features to the benefit of those interested in the RUNCIMAN, and variant, surnames.
It provides a space where links may be provided to patriarchs, test takers, and to the One Name Study/DNA Project pages as appropriate.
On the page are some links to instructions from WikiTree on how to protect privacy when entering data for living people.
To upload a gedcom you have to have signify that you have read the WikiTree Genealogist Honor Code.
Hints:
Whereas WikiTree allows gedcom uploads, data is not readily re-updated via another GedCom upload.
My personal use is to upload a branch of a tree at a time, but only once it is reasonably complete and documented, and only down to the generations no longer with us. Should family members wish to use the facilities for their own data on the living, that is their choice, and can be within the excellent privacy controls as to visibility, and trusted family member facilities offered by WikiTree.
For the ONS and DNA project purposes, ideally we would have all the test takers loaded with their direct ancestors, and each RUNCIMAN patriarch identified on the above project page.
A bonus would be to get the descendants of the patriarchs also loaded, but to do that efficiently requires a plan of attack between those working on a particular line as to who uploads which branches.
It is best only to load small gedcoms at a time, eg for one branch of a family.
On import, the first step you are required to do is to compare the identified possible duplicates and either reject or link them at import to be merged after import processing has been completed.
So, before rushing into this, do check what may already exist there, and identify the gaps to be filled, and linked.
Want to help out by contributing your tree but don't know how? Contact the project admin using the details in the footer of any of the project pages.
Want to do your bit towards accurate RUNCIMAN etc family trees?
Help out the One Name Study/DNA project by publishing your own genealogy and share the fact that you have taken a DNA test.
(Yes the One Name Study has published trees, but they are only those I've researched, many many more families exist and there's only so many hours in a day.)
WikiTree, a free, collaborative, one world tree site, always was a site with great privacy controls and options, but has just become even better for those of us interested in genetic genealogy.
It has implemented a set of DNA features whereby those who have taken a DNA test (Y-DNA, mt-DNA or autosomal DNA) may mark this on their profile using the facility provided. (Privacy options exist.)
Each person who may be impacted by this test then gets a link on their profile that they may find more family information by contacting the test taker.
Works best, of course, if you conscientiously check for, and merge, any duplicated people found, and work on them together with the other interested researcher.
Of particular interest is the power of connected trees to enable those of us interested in FamilyFinder (an autosomal dna test) to try and determine where such a link may be.
This has nothing to do with actual DNA results, which continue to be published in the DNA project pages, as will trees on the One Name Study, this is a great extension to the project.
What it is doing is identifying family connected to the results, eg anyone on the direct male line of a RUNCIMAN who has taken a Y-DNA test, anyone on the direct maternal line of a female test taker, and anyone within a conservative 5? generations of relationship to someone who has taken a FamilyFinder, or 23andme, test.
Check out the Runciman One Name Study and DNA Project page on WikiTree.
It should help us all leverage off these new WikiTree features to the benefit of those interested in the RUNCIMAN, and variant, surnames.
It provides a space where links may be provided to patriarchs, test takers, and to the One Name Study/DNA Project pages as appropriate.
On the page are some links to instructions from WikiTree on how to protect privacy when entering data for living people.
To upload a gedcom you have to have signify that you have read the WikiTree Genealogist Honor Code.
Hints:
Whereas WikiTree allows gedcom uploads, data is not readily re-updated via another GedCom upload.
My personal use is to upload a branch of a tree at a time, but only once it is reasonably complete and documented, and only down to the generations no longer with us. Should family members wish to use the facilities for their own data on the living, that is their choice, and can be within the excellent privacy controls as to visibility, and trusted family member facilities offered by WikiTree.
For the ONS and DNA project purposes, ideally we would have all the test takers loaded with their direct ancestors, and each RUNCIMAN patriarch identified on the above project page.
A bonus would be to get the descendants of the patriarchs also loaded, but to do that efficiently requires a plan of attack between those working on a particular line as to who uploads which branches.
It is best only to load small gedcoms at a time, eg for one branch of a family.
On import, the first step you are required to do is to compare the identified possible duplicates and either reject or link them at import to be merged after import processing has been completed.
So, before rushing into this, do check what may already exist there, and identify the gaps to be filled, and linked.
Want to help out by contributing your tree but don't know how? Contact the project admin using the details in the footer of any of the project pages.
Saturday, June 29, 2013
Break through that brick wall now!
Trying to break down a RUNCIMAN (or similar surname) brick wall?
Now's the time to grab the opportunity to add science to your search.
Family Tree DNA have advertised a summer sale,
full details on the DNA Surnames project diary, but do make sure that you order via the RUNCIMAN project so that we all benefit from your search - and can help you with our combined knowledge of the known families.
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