WeRelate

The recent changes entries on the One Name Study pages for the Inchture family of John & Susan (DONALDSON) RUNCIMAN's family are to include links to (and from) their entries on WeRelate rather than any particularly new information.
As the prior post on WeRelate states, it is a genealogy wiki where you can share your finds. Any pages you update will be added to your "watchlist" and subsequent updates notified to you.

2 day DNA Discount

If any of you are interested in exploring which group of RUNCIMANs you most closely relate to, you may be interested to see that Family Tree DNA, the company we use for the RUNCIMAN Surname DNA project, is having a 2day sale (finishes midnight Sat Apr 21st (?Houston time?).

If you do decide to join, and a sale is an excellent time to do so, make sure that you follow the order link from the project to automatically be enrolled in the RUNCIMAN project. Privacy can be guaranteed, all those named on the project pages have agreed to be so shown.
http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Runciman
is the order link, but make sure you are getting the prices shown below

Check out the One Name Study Wanted! pages
http://runciman.lornahen.com/lineages/cpruncimanwanted.htm
for those lines particularly wanted to see who fits where, and the summary DNA project pages to see if your line is already represented
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/runciman/results
Joining the project already makes you eligible for a project discount, but the prices have been discounted further:
To be of relevance for the RUNCIMAN project the person testing has to be a direct male line RUNCIMAN, sorry about the discrimination, but anyone descended via the female line doesn't have the Y-dna passed down the chain from father to son.
Current Group price/SALE PRICE
Y-DNA 37 $149 / $129
or
Y-DNA 67 $238 / $199
would be the best for the project but the following may be of personal interest:

Family Finder $289 / $199
FF+ Y-DNA 37 $438 / $328
FF + mtDNAPlus $438 / $328
Comprehensive (FF + FMS + Y-DNA 67) $797 / $657

Upgrades
Y-DNA 12-37 Marker $99/ $69
Y-DNA 37-67 Marker $99/ $79
Y-DNA 12-67 Marker $199/ $148
Family Finder add-on $289 / $199

Any questions, just ask, this is a very good opportunity to expand our knowledge of how the RUNCIMAN families may, or may not relate.
Regards
Lorna Henderson
Administrator RUNCIMAN Surname DNA project
http://RuncimansAll.blogspot.com/

Places

The lineage section of the One Name Study has been updated.
A place index, and a map have been included on the site.
The map shows all birth and death places where geocoding has been added to the birth/death place for anyone included on the site - it's a wonderful way to check the geocoding as you find events out in the middle of the ocean where they were not, in general, born!

Check the recent changes index for included people that have been updated in some way.
In addition several trees may well have updated information on them now, eg that for the Inchture family of James and Susan (DONALDSON) RUNCIMAN, whose son James has now been included, given recent correspondence about the family.

RICHMOND or RUNCIMAN?

We have a 65/67 match* with a RICHMOND that should bear examination. Family information known, yet to be explored, is that an Andrew, born about 1807 in Scotland, turned up in New York, where there was a son Alexander born in 1845.

* 65/67 to what is shaping up as the modal dna signature for Lineage 1, that of Jerry (R-2)

DNA Surnames update

DNA Surnames has been fully republished, with yet more of the RUNCIMAN data that really belongs on the One Name Study pages now being either shifted to there, or linked to from there, particularly for descendancy charts.
Some DNA conclusions have been updated to reflect current results and matches.

Michigan RUNCIMANs

As mentioned in passing on the Rootsweb RUNCIMAN Mailing List, the mystery of exactly how the Michigan families connect to the Wanton Walls line, and to each other has been solved.
 Family stories say that a brother went to London, died young, and the young children were brought up at Wanton Walls. Some stories say that James and William were cousins, some say they were brothers.
James (marr. CARTER) and William (marr. BROWN)  are indeed brothers, not cousins, and the children at Wanton Walls at the time would be their cousins. Wonder what happened to their mother Mary Ann HILL?

Lineage 1a has therefore been re-connected to remove the place-holder generation that linked James and William as cousins and linked them to their genetic match to the Wanton Walls line.

The research behind this also brought into Lineage 1a the family of bakers at Lauder, John & Mary (DICKSON) RUNCIMAN, from whom we knew that a couple by the name of William & Mary Ann (HILL) RUNCIMAN existed, as John's death cert. provided that info, along with the fact that William was also a baker. Which very usefully tied in to the wonderful London records now available online via ancestry which showed a baker William RUNCIMAN in Shoe Lane, St Bride Fleet St, London.
Who obligingly baptised his children (by three wives!), and which parish clerk/minister obligingly scribbled beside most of the entries "30 Shoe Lane" or variants thereof.

Check the revised Lineage 1a descendancy chart out, as it contains the links to most of the above mentioned people. The DNA Signature chart has also been re-connected to reflect the recent findings.

Glasgow graduates (to 1896)

Thought it was time to recheck the Glasgow University RUNCIMAN graduates (between 1451 and 1896).
Only 6, all are identified.
The two Davids belong to Lineage 1a (the WantonWalls, Earlston line), James Watson and William RUNCIMAN are cousins belonging to lineage 1b (William of Crail branch), and Agatha Rachel RUNCIMAN - M.A. 1902 - also belonging to lineage 1b (Thomas & Alison (GRIEVE) branch, taught in Connecticut, and died there a few days after her brother Oscar).